@**ToyDemon** PS. In terms did anything on the lists surprise me? Not really. Not based on years past bestsellers, reviews, price points and how much I myself have enjoyed many on these lists.

As pointed out dry sticks are new and I expect to see those go up a bit in time but I think reviews/price and bang for the buck easily explains the top lubes which are the main ones I use now. Though I'll always miss the Maria Ozawa Lotion.

No surprise the Meiki Plush Torso leads the doll pack. It's the easiest to use, requires less cleaning (and even basic clean isn't too much of a hassle), most versatile for general use and for interactiveness with virtually any masturbator sleeve on the market (proving its not a hip, mini hip etc) make sit an all around winner for hands free fun. I have have one high end TPE torso and two full TPE YL dolls and even though those are all more realistic in visuals/touch, because of the extra weight/prep/clean time/more limited insert-sleeve use, not to mention without a good heater or electric blanket they get colder faster) I use the plush torso more often.

As for the sleeves themselves. I own or have owned about 2.3rds of those on the current list and about half of the all-timers. Mostly I'd agree they are solid hitters if not excellent. The ZXY, La Bocca and Maria are top three hitters for a reason. If anything this reminds me I really need to give one of the Sujaman Loco's a try, but so many variants.... one day though. There's three I found slightly/mildly underwhelming- hence why I don't own them now. But I know they are generally well loved so I won't rain on those parades. and 1 major disappointment. The major disappointment is the Creation Yuria. I don't get it. The reviews are glowing with almost nothing bad (outside of my own). But the sleeve literally can't keep me excited let alone push me across the finish line. After 4 tires I'm done. This one is likely hitting the trash in 2021. But to all who love it- more power to you - just further evidence reviews aren't 100% foolproof for everyone.

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The only way the ZXY will drop off the list at this point is if NPG discontinues it. It just has too much of a solid reputation. I imagine there are better onaholes out but there they just don't the same recognition of the ZXY. Modest improvements won't be enough to outshine the ZXY. Something will likely need to be monumentally better to overtake it.

I haven't tried the ZXY yet but I have a feeling I'm going to find it is going to be a bit overhyped. The price point is what is keeping me away. I'd rather get 2-3 <$20 onaholes and search for a diamond in the rough than spend the $60+ for the ZXY. Variety is the spice of life. I'm sure by next BF I'll have rounded out my line up enough that I'll be more willing to nab the ZXY on the BF sale.

@**ToyDemon** can confirm the Magic Eyes La Bocca is awesome

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I'd be interested to see if people who own larger toys still prefer the ZXY. There's nothing wrong with the ZXY I just prefer the small/mid size hips. Once I got into those I've rarely wanted to pull out a sleeve. There's probably a price component there as well though. My average purchase of late is generally well outside that price point. It probably falls into the sweet spot of what people are willing to spend if I had to guess though. If I had to limit it to just sleeves it's certainly a good one. I think I'll abstain from voting.

@**ToyDemon** There are other onaholes I sometimes prefer to use in rotation but the ZXY always has her place. She never fails to hit the goal line and has proven to be one of the more durable meiki's for me (not THE most but reasonably so). Also I've found that when buying replacements there's been a better consistency between the ZXY's over the years vs others I've replaced where sometimes (not always) they seem to change the formula of the TPE making the replacement a little softer or harder which can take the sensation up or down a notch and knock it off being a top fav.

Anyway it seems to be the magic Ona that has managed to really please the majority of men who use it. I too agree it would need to be discontinued or QC/TPE formula would have to take a serious nosedive for a long stretch to remove the crown from the ZXY.