Which one would you choose?
I have quite a large collection in all price ranges,
If I had to choose 1 I would go for the Tomax lilith urus regular.
what would you choose?
I have quite a large collection in all price ranges,
If I had to choose 1 I would go for the Tomax lilith urus regular.
what would you choose?
eelsushi ( 346 )
@lukee9 I will probably get some hate for this answer but hear me out, lol.
If I could only use one toy for the rest of my life, it would be Tenga Eggs. They're inconspicuous for travel and security checkpoints, they can be left in plain sight, and they're an easy way to ease new partners into the concept of you using sex toys. They also don't display any overt vibes of what many people would consider to be "perverse" or "deviant", unlike many toys.
If I could only use one toy for the rest of my life, it would be Tenga Eggs. They're inconspicuous for travel and security checkpoints, they can be left in plain sight, and they're an easy way to ease new partners into the concept of you using sex toys. They also don't display any overt vibes of what many people would consider to be "perverse" or "deviant", unlike many toys.
eelsushi ( 346 )
@lukee9 I've owned many Fleshlights and I still have 3, though I never use them. I find Onas to be superior to Fleslights in every way _except_ ease of cleaning and vulva sculpting (Fleshlighs offer many castings of various porn star vulvas, if you're into that). My main beef with Fleshlights is that they're really designed for men who have above average penis size, but especially above average length. Most of the interesting texture in a Fleshlight is 5+ inches in, which is a big problem for a lot of men, and the texture that is there in a Fleshlight is usually pretty uninteresting. Onas are nice because they create suction and they also have a lot of texture accessible for men of average or shorter length and girth.
Greenwood95 ( 580 )
@eelsushi Good summary of the drawbacks of the Flashlight. I had a couple years ago but tossed them out within a couple months. The sensations did next to nothing for me and I felt the size of them was overkill. Yes maybe a more well hung guy would get more out of them.... I recall there were many different internal designs and maybe one of them would have done it for me but I wasn't willing to try not after trying and being turned around by the Onaholes. I got the impression they were made that large to give all guys the impression that we all have bigger dicks than we really do, like to pump our egos or something. I'm somewhat over average myself but not porn star level and I remember thinking the tings were unwieldy during use. Flashlights are a US based company and in the States the average dick is like just over 5 inches. You'd think they's have considered that a bit more in the design for mass use/appeal. Or maybe a 'medium' range in addition to a larger range or something. Ugh. Whatever, I'm never buying another one.
eelsushi ( 346 )
@Greenwood95 Yeah, the Fleslights were always just way too long to be enjoyable for me.
They did have a series called "Sex in a Can" for a while that was like the size of a 16oz beer can instead of an oversized mag-lite. They were corny and the orifices and textures were very uninspiring, but they were much more suited for the average man. Unsurprisingly, they were discontinued as it seems the real appeal of Fleshlights these days is for the porn star vulva molds and the fact that they've been in pop culture many times. It's pretty sad that many men are missing out on the world of Onaholes because the only popularized and de-stigmatized male sex toy is the Fleshlight. But, hey, at least we're in on the secret, right? ;)
They did have a series called "Sex in a Can" for a while that was like the size of a 16oz beer can instead of an oversized mag-lite. They were corny and the orifices and textures were very uninspiring, but they were much more suited for the average man. Unsurprisingly, they were discontinued as it seems the real appeal of Fleshlights these days is for the porn star vulva molds and the fact that they've been in pop culture many times. It's pretty sad that many men are missing out on the world of Onaholes because the only popularized and de-stigmatized male sex toy is the Fleshlight. But, hey, at least we're in on the secret, right? ;)
Greenwood95 ( 580 )
@eelsushi Wow I vaguely remember them marketing the Sex in a Can.... seemed so unappealing! ut I guess half their strategy was ways to easily hide these things at a glance. Agreed the Porn star outer molds were a nice touch and I do prefer a vaginal looking opening to a nondescript hole but... at the end of the day it's how it feels that counts and Fleshlights always didn't deliver there. But true most guys in the US who wan to try an onahole likely started and stopped at the Flashlight due to their targeted/easy to stumble on advertising. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say the onahole (including the Fleshlight) is de-stigmatized. I feel like sex toys in general are still far more accepted for women then for men.
Papi ( 206 )
@lukee9 do you own the julia+ or the lolinco virgo because those are the only two I have so far. is the Tomax lilith urus overall better than those 2?
lukee9 ( 23 )
@Papi I own the Julia+ and that one is alsoone of my favourites. the stimulation level is high. But still the lilith wins for me, as eelsushi says, you can't go wrong with it. especially for that price. I have the Venus real too, i recommend that one too! I also have the venus real, is realistic and very nice, but has less stimulation compared to the julia +. But I like that!
Greenwood95 ( 580 )
@eelsushi How would you describe the Muses line vs the Lilith Uterus or Venus Real? I have or have had the latter but curious what the Muses brings to the table.
eelsushi ( 346 )
All products I'll discuss below are by Tomax, in case you're looking for the brand.
The Lilith Uterus is well suited for >avg penis sizes. The vulva resembles that of a Fleshlight (generic) and the opening is fairly large. The tunnel starts relatively tight but quickly opens up into a larger cavern. The uterus opening is similarly sized to the entrance of the tunnel, and the uterus itself is rather large and cavernous. A great sleeve of high quality, but not good for <avg sized men or those looking for an extra tight experience or superior vulva molding.
The Muses line has 3 options. Kokolo, Fillo, and Arkhe. Each has the same vulva sculpt and it is vastly superior to the Lilith Uterus or Venus Series in terms of realism. The labia and clitoris are well shaped, and to top it off there is even a urethra and an anus (though the anus is only for looks, it's still recessed enough to play with your tip).
Like those of the great artists of history, each muse invokes a different theme - in this case, different box art and tunnel design.
Kokolo is a lounging goddess, carefree as she beckons you to enter her softly. Her tunnel design is tight throughout and full of tall ribs that reach out and caress you. She has a large and pronounced G-Spot curve in her tunnel, which meanders up and down throughout the length. The end of her tunnel is a mixture of ribs and nobs - depending on the orientation of the sleeve you can stimulate your head in very different ways.
Fillo is a playful goddess, down on one knee with the opposite leg stretched out to spread open her sex before you. She looks back at you over her arched back and glistening wings and dares you to take her from behind in whatever way pleases you. Her tunnel design is unique. It begins ultra tight and immediately greets you with a bumpy G-Spot before opening up into a tight canal full of ribbed mounds. Each mound is delightfully textured and has a crevasse separating it from the next, allowing you to feel each mount separately or get lost in her cavern. The end of her tunnel grows increasingly tighter and becomes a tight ribbed funnel begging for your seed.
Arkhe is the goddess of carnal delights. She kneels before you, facing you as she thrusts her hips toward you, begging you fill her as deeply as you can and empty yourself into her. This is a uterus toy, and it is superior to the Lilith Uterus if you are of avg or <avg size. The tunnel design is tight throughout, and the texture is subtle. Gentle waves and ribs caress your shaft and head as you move past a subdued G-Spot. At the rear third of the tunnel you'll find a large protruding uterus with plenty of room around it to swirl your head and tease her before you penetrate the depths of her womb. The entrance to the uterus is VERY tight before opening into a ribbed cone that will absolutely suck the lifeforce out of you (to Arkhe's delight!).
I won't spend much time on the Venus line. Even though I think these are great sleeves, they're relatively boring compared to the Muses line. The vulva sculpting is better than the Lilith Uterus but worse than the Muses. It has well formed labia but they stand out a bit oddly from the rest of the vulva, and the clitoris is small and uninspiring.
The Venus Real is decently tight, first curving downward, then upward, before leveling out. The texture is consistent throughout and can best be described as "chaotic". The nature of this texture makes it very stimulating because you can't quite place your finger on what it feels like, but it's similar enough to a real vaginal canal that it gets the job done.
The Venus Cross is a cool little sleeve. It starts out with a cavern of raised nubs before moving into a short tunnel of the chaotic texture I described in the Venus Real. It moves back into a larger chamber of raised nubs again before the end of the sleeve turns into an ultratight and relatively textureless ending.
The Venus Clone is an absolute performance sleeve. The texture isn't particularly exciting (just raised nubs throughout), but the shape of the tunnel brings you past 3 different G-Spot-like mounds of varying size and length before the tunnel grows smaller towards the end. If you want to explode in a hurry, this will get you there.
Hope that helps!
The Lilith Uterus is well suited for >avg penis sizes. The vulva resembles that of a Fleshlight (generic) and the opening is fairly large. The tunnel starts relatively tight but quickly opens up into a larger cavern. The uterus opening is similarly sized to the entrance of the tunnel, and the uterus itself is rather large and cavernous. A great sleeve of high quality, but not good for <avg sized men or those looking for an extra tight experience or superior vulva molding.
The Muses line has 3 options. Kokolo, Fillo, and Arkhe. Each has the same vulva sculpt and it is vastly superior to the Lilith Uterus or Venus Series in terms of realism. The labia and clitoris are well shaped, and to top it off there is even a urethra and an anus (though the anus is only for looks, it's still recessed enough to play with your tip).
Like those of the great artists of history, each muse invokes a different theme - in this case, different box art and tunnel design.
Kokolo is a lounging goddess, carefree as she beckons you to enter her softly. Her tunnel design is tight throughout and full of tall ribs that reach out and caress you. She has a large and pronounced G-Spot curve in her tunnel, which meanders up and down throughout the length. The end of her tunnel is a mixture of ribs and nobs - depending on the orientation of the sleeve you can stimulate your head in very different ways.
Fillo is a playful goddess, down on one knee with the opposite leg stretched out to spread open her sex before you. She looks back at you over her arched back and glistening wings and dares you to take her from behind in whatever way pleases you. Her tunnel design is unique. It begins ultra tight and immediately greets you with a bumpy G-Spot before opening up into a tight canal full of ribbed mounds. Each mound is delightfully textured and has a crevasse separating it from the next, allowing you to feel each mount separately or get lost in her cavern. The end of her tunnel grows increasingly tighter and becomes a tight ribbed funnel begging for your seed.
Arkhe is the goddess of carnal delights. She kneels before you, facing you as she thrusts her hips toward you, begging you fill her as deeply as you can and empty yourself into her. This is a uterus toy, and it is superior to the Lilith Uterus if you are of avg or <avg size. The tunnel design is tight throughout, and the texture is subtle. Gentle waves and ribs caress your shaft and head as you move past a subdued G-Spot. At the rear third of the tunnel you'll find a large protruding uterus with plenty of room around it to swirl your head and tease her before you penetrate the depths of her womb. The entrance to the uterus is VERY tight before opening into a ribbed cone that will absolutely suck the lifeforce out of you (to Arkhe's delight!).
I won't spend much time on the Venus line. Even though I think these are great sleeves, they're relatively boring compared to the Muses line. The vulva sculpting is better than the Lilith Uterus but worse than the Muses. It has well formed labia but they stand out a bit oddly from the rest of the vulva, and the clitoris is small and uninspiring.
The Venus Real is decently tight, first curving downward, then upward, before leveling out. The texture is consistent throughout and can best be described as "chaotic". The nature of this texture makes it very stimulating because you can't quite place your finger on what it feels like, but it's similar enough to a real vaginal canal that it gets the job done.
The Venus Cross is a cool little sleeve. It starts out with a cavern of raised nubs before moving into a short tunnel of the chaotic texture I described in the Venus Real. It moves back into a larger chamber of raised nubs again before the end of the sleeve turns into an ultratight and relatively textureless ending.
The Venus Clone is an absolute performance sleeve. The texture isn't particularly exciting (just raised nubs throughout), but the shape of the tunnel brings you past 3 different G-Spot-like mounds of varying size and length before the tunnel grows smaller towards the end. If you want to explode in a hurry, this will get you there.
Hope that helps!
Greenwood95 ( 580 )
@eelsushi Extremely helpful thanks. I was disappointed by the Venus Real Reg firmness but base don reviews I may try again in a softer version. I LOVE the Lilith Uterus and I was pretty overwhelmed by the sensations of the Lilith Spiral Wave. Wasn't sure on the Muses but you have me intrigued to give them a go. Do you have a firmness recommendation for any of the three?
Greenwood95 ( 580 )
@eelsushi I understand, guess I just figured you'd based on your own use what softness you've enjoyed best with these. I read the last Muses you listed was designed specifically with the Rich Soft in mind and is best to start there for that one.But I'll try and experiment next time I try some of the Tomax sleeves
Greenwood95 ( 580 )
@lukee9 Hm.. Hard call so many favorites that would likely do if I had to use them for the rest of my life. The Meiki 05 ZXY, The Meiki Ootsuka, The Meiiki 07 Sarah, Tomax Lilith Uterus have all been a favorite at one time. A year ago I'd have said the Extra Haruna Hana. Always stimulating to me at just the right level. But eventually after a few years I had to retire it and I bought a replacement but they switched to a slightly softer material so while still good it doens't knock it out of the park like it used to. I may try another repurchase soon to see if the next batch will resemble the first one I had.
Regardless right now my pick would be the Meiki 01 Maria Ozawa. It's been overall the most versatile in the group. Not too stimulating, not too soft, feels fairly realistic and the replacements I've bought for it more or less feel the same especially once I break them in.
Regardless right now my pick would be the Meiki 01 Maria Ozawa. It's been overall the most versatile in the group. Not too stimulating, not too soft, feels fairly realistic and the replacements I've bought for it more or less feel the same especially once I break them in.
lukee9 ( 23 )
@Greenwood95 I really like your answer. I have never tried the Meiki Maria Ozawa. But I have the meiki ZXY and it is also a great hole. I have used it a lot for a year now and it has not been damaged. I often read in comments that meikis break quickly but if you take good care of it that is not the case at all.
I think the Ozawa Meiki will be my next order. Have you or anyone here on the forum ever tried fleslights? I only have onaholes but I really wonder if fleslights can compete with the feeling of the onaholes,
I think the Ozawa Meiki will be my next order. Have you or anyone here on the forum ever tried fleslights? I only have onaholes but I really wonder if fleslights can compete with the feeling of the onaholes,
Greenwood95 ( 580 )
@lukee9 I think it depends on the Meiki. Most of my meiki's have held up very well for years before wearing out etc. I've had maybe one bad Meiki that tore up too severely and fast to hang around more than a few months but the replacement has held up fine.
I've had a couple of Fleshlights. They were my gateway into the world of onaholes. IMHO they are nowhere near as good as the Japanese ones. Maybe there's a design that could give one a run for it's money but it's not worth trying IMHO. I found them too big/bulky, and not very stimulating. The 'flashlight' design is nice in terms of hiding it. otherwise I can't recommend them. The Japanese ones on average but especially the ones I recommended above I think blow them away in terms of sensation.
I've had a couple of Fleshlights. They were my gateway into the world of onaholes. IMHO they are nowhere near as good as the Japanese ones. Maybe there's a design that could give one a run for it's money but it's not worth trying IMHO. I found them too big/bulky, and not very stimulating. The 'flashlight' design is nice in terms of hiding it. otherwise I can't recommend them. The Japanese ones on average but especially the ones I recommended above I think blow them away in terms of sensation.