A10 Piston BASIC

 For some reason it won't allow me to reply to my own comment but I thought I'd post the items I personally find to work. Keeping in mind we're all different sizes, shapes, etc. which will impact your experience. I tried the Puni Virgin Real on a lark and it's just about the perfect size to fit the cup, not drag the sides and put strain on the motor, and I found it to be really pleasant. Very soft. It might be difficult to use for those on the larger side though. Those of us on the back slope of the standard distribution I suspect will find more value in these types of toys for this particular machine. The Vorze sleeves are hit and miss for me.

TL:DR- Puni Virgin Real works for me.

 Hi, I cant reply to your reply either... thought I would update again as I have bought almost all the sleeves (only missing plain and throat) and a few from project g. With the rends sleeves they are all at least enjoyable. I think if you polled 100 ppl that used them all they would rank sucker, helix, and steel as the best. Or maybe thats just my bias because they are the tighter sleeves and thats what I prefer. IMO sucker and helix are must haves. The rest are good to mix things up with but none of them are mind blowing for me. YMMV of course. I actually enjoy clover about as well as any of the rest. Wind could slip into the top 5 depending on how it hits you. Those who are girthy might want to try thrill as it is the widest. It could be overwhelming if it were tight on you though. For some that might be heaven but others it might be a bit much. Lube matters with all of these of course. Different lubes turn so so sleeves into a fantastic experience. It seems like with almost all of these you have to turn them to have the parts designed to provide sensation hit the parts of you that you want the sensation on. Small issue but is an issue. As to the project g sleeves 300 to 400 grams is the sweet spot to fit the cup, not drag the sides, and fit the cup. Even at 400g you might have to modify them a bit though. The one I mentioned previously is still my favorite of those but I am still experimenting witn 3 or 4 others. More updates later maybe once I spend time with those.

 It's possible to use sleeves from other manufacturers. Has anyone found anything that fits the provided cup, feels amazing, and doesn't bog down the motor? I would imagine this thing is just waiting for someone way smarter than me to hack the thing and give it much more functionality as well. I'm not a smart man as Forrest Gump once said so I have no idea what the limitations are with the physical hardware itself nor what it would take to make adjustments to the electronics to give you more control over patterns etc. People do all sorts of shit with a roomba. I just can't fathom that polishing a floor is more incentive than automated knob polishing. So where are people talking about these things? Are there other forums I just don't know about? Even reddit is devoid of info on this thing... I just don't get it.